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Serious Question - As we're talking about density, do folks feel there is a maximum density that an area can support? I'm not asking if a particular area is AT that density, but sometimes I get a feeling that folks here are willing to support anything that raises density -- damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! But in order to support density, an area needs things - roads, schools, appropriate transit, water, electricity, etc. These things aren't a given -- roads can only be widened so much, so many district schools are already overcrowded, if a road isn't big enough a bus can't fit down it, etc. 

If what we're arguing about is a matter of degree, sure that's something to disagree about but realize that if we're down to a matter of degree we're not really THAT far apart.